We have another video to post today – this time about the Steyr 1912 handgun, aka the Steyr-Hahn. We have one in the Reference Collection that we are going to disassemble and discuss, so please join in:
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Thanks again for a very good (simple, short, well edited) video of this very interesting gun. So, the 9×19 para is more powerfull than the 9×23 Steyr? I would have thought that the extra 4 mm case lenght and extra powder would make it more powerful than the 9 mm para. I know the 9 para has gotten a lot more powerfull through the decades, but I presume you compare a 1912 9 mm para with a 1912 9 mm Steyr?
The potential of 9mm Luger has increased over time (+P, +P+, etc), but the standard has remained the same as original, to ensure that a round of generic 9×19 made today won’t blow up a hundred year old Luger pistol. The extra length of the 9mm Steyr could potentially allow it a greater muzzle velocity, if it were loaded with more powder. But it also allows the round to have the same velocity as 9mm Luger with lower pressure (greater case volume equals lower pressure, all else being equal), and lower pressure means less wear and tear on the gun.
When we take the 1912 out to the range, I’ll bring along a chronograph – it would be neat to check the exact MV of some original 9mm Steyr, compared to 9×19 and 9mm Largo. I see a range of numbers thrown around on the net when discussing these cartridges.
Glad you liked the video!
Excellent Video on a very interesting and rare gun !!!
I think it had a version with extended mag (also blind !?)…and one with a stock.
Yes, there was a full-auto variant made with a 16-round magazine and shoulder stock, and you could also get a stock to fit the standard pistol. It’s worth noting that the magazine is an integral part of the frame, so you can’t swap the extended magazine onto a normal 1912 pistol.
Sure! Only advantage you’ll have is a greater ammo fountain when unloading
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It would be very interesting if you show full automatic version of this pistol,
I know it got more longer magazine plus stock..
Full auto version of Steyr pistol have selector plus 3 additional parts…
Well,
Funny to say we not even seen anything on Webley,Luger,Mauser and Walther yet those are also capable shoot full automaticly models like Luger Artillery ,Mauser 712 Schnellfeuer,dont know if walther made such of prototypes but it possible..
Science Walther facility was destroyed by Alied bombings not many details was left on every single firearm prototype and blueprints was reconstructed from existed models.
Heh – if I ever get my hands on one of the machine pistol variants, I will certainly post photos at the very least.
Thanks for posting this…this makes me homesick for my Steyr 1917. I have found that with my 1912 it performs best with maximum loads for standard 9mm Luger and a 125 cast bullet. I would not recommend 9mm + loads. I am surprised that this pistole was not improved with a detachable magazine (or was it). I shoot better with this one than a Colt 1911. For me, the Steyr 1912 points better. Thanks again!
Something about this design always appealed to me, despite (or perhaps because of) it being a bit obsolete even at the time of its introduction.
I have a Steyr with 1916 stamped on the side. I would like to know if the Steyr 9mm is the only cartridge this pistol will shoot or are there any alternatives?