SAR West 2011 Review and NFA stats

Well, it’s been another yet and another SAR West gun show. As I mentioned before, this is the only gun show around here that I attend – because you’ll find more great stuff at it than at all the other shows through the year put together. This year was no exception – we have lots of great stuff for you guys that will be going up in the next couple weeks. Lots of photos of really interesting guns, and some great interviews.

Ian with a Scotti Model X
Me with a Scotti Model X (no, I couldn't afford to buy it)

One other thing that happens at SAR West each year is a meeting of the NFATCA, a trade association for dealers in NFA weapons (suppressors, machine guns, destructive devices, etc). There were a couple ATF reps there this year, who presented some statistics to explain the long wait for NFA transfers to be processed (I’m about 5 months into mine right now).

The number of NFA transfer requests has increased by about 10,000 per year since 2005, and there have been 105,000 received to date this year (that’s about 320 transfers per day!). ATF says they have 22,000 transfers sitting in the office right now waiting to be processed. On the one hand, this is reprehensible – we would never stand for a 5 or 6 month wait to apply for a permit to buy a book or a license to join a church (the notion of even having those permits would be unacceptable). But on the other hand, I find this massive growth in NFA purchases very heartening. Even if these transfers take months and months to be stamped by the bureaucrats, it means tens of thousands more people discovering the cool things that they really can purchase and use. More machine guns and suppressors and SBRs is an excellent thing for the shooting and collecting communities.

I’ll have more on some other ATF developments tomorrow. We don’t normally go into politics here, but I think this info is interesting and valuable to know. Until then, here are a few more previews of what’s coming up from our time at the show:

Madsen belt-fed tank gun
Madsen belt-fed tank gun
Homemade VG1-5 lookalike
Homemade VG1-5 lookalike
Prototype Italian autoloader
Prototype Italian autoloader


  1. Gosh, that Scotti Model X looks mint… I wonder how much the seller was asking. Well, not that I could afford to buy it either!
    Btw, is that Italian autoloader prototype made by Breda? Or is it another Scotti design? Very interesting. Thanks for posting such pictures of rarely seen guns.

    • Both of the Italian rifles are for sale – contact Terry at milsurp1 AT hotmail DOT com if you want to discuss purchase (I’mm be posting his contact address again when I put up the detailed photos of the rifles)

  2. I hope one day you are able to do a review and test of a MP507(VG1-5). For the given design criteria and time frame it was a good rifle.

    As the price of originals exceed my current budget, do you happen to have the name of the guy and/or contact information who made this look a like?

  3. Never mind, this is fantastic by itself, there are lots of talks about homebuilt VG, but so far never seen any reproductions till now.
    Maybe this is the only one existing…(so far!)

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