The Breda Model 30 was the standard Italian light machine gun of World War II, and is a serious contender for “worst machine gun ever”. Yes, given the choice we would prefer to have a Chauchat (which really wasn’t as bad as people today generally think).

Breda Model 30 LMG
Breda Model 30 LMG (click to enlarge)

The Breda 30 suffered from all manner of problems. To begin with, it was far more complicated than necessary. The amount of machining needed to build one is mind boggling compared to contemporary guns like the ZB26/Bren or BAR. And for all that work, it just didn’t work well in combat conditions.

Mechanically, the Breda used a recoil-delayed blowback mechanism, managing to get all the possible downsides of both. The recoil action meant that the barrel moved with each shot, so the sights were mounted on the receiver to keep them fixed. This seems like a good idea, but it meant that the sights would need to be re-zeroed each time the barrel was changed. To compound this, the gun fired from a closed bolt which made it more susceptible to overheating and it was recommended to change barrels every 200 rounds or so. The action also lacked any primary extraction to help break the empty cartridge cases out of the chamber. Instead, an oiling mechanism was built in to lightly oil each cartridge on feeding. This allowed the gun to extract without ripping rims off the cases, but was a disaster waiting to happen on the battlefield. In places like North Africa, the oil acted as a magnet for sand and dust, leading to quick jamming if the gun were not kept scrupulously clean.

The next huge judgment error on Breda’s part was the magazine. The thought behind it was that magazine feed lips are easily damaged in the field, and they can be protected by building them into the gun receiver rather than in each cheap disposable box magazine (the Johnson LMG and Madsen LMG recognized this issue as well). However, Breda’s solution was to make the 20-round magazine a permanent part of the gun. The magazine was attached to the receiver by a hinge pin, and was reloaded by special 20-round stripper clips. This meant that reloading took significantly longer than changing magazines, and any damage to the one attached magazine would render the gun inoperable. As if anything else were needed, the magazine was made with a big opening on top to allow the gunner to see how many rounds remained – and to let more of that North African sand into the action.

Most of the Breda Model 30s were made in 6.5 Carcano, but a small number were made in 7.35 Carcano when that cartridge was adopted. The rate of fire was about 500 rounds per minute, which was a bit slower than most other machine guns of the day.


We haven’t had a chance to take one of these to the range ourselves, but there is a decent clip of one being fired and reloaded on YouTube:



We also have some photos showing some details of the Breda 30 (thanks, Joe!):




Breda Model 30 manual (English, 1941)
Breda Model 30 manual (English, 1941)



  1. I have a question about the functioning of this weapon. I am attempting to build a kit and am almost finished. I do not understand how the trigger returns to the forward position upon firing the weapon. As far as bench testing, when I charge the weapon and allow the bolt to fall into battery, and pull the trigger to allow the firing pin to fall, the trigger remains back in the fired position. I do not see where a return spring is and was wondering if the recoil action of the bolt causes the trigger to move forward??? It seems to me, that this method would be a bit painful if you left your finger on the trigger because the bolt would be trying to knock it forward. If there is a return spring that my kit was missing, I don’t know where it goes. I am building the weapon as original, full=auto (SOT/FFL).

  2. From what videos I’ve seen of this gun the magazine is actually pretty fast to reload, using the chargers. That said, it appears you’re quite correct about all the other design flaws in this miserable thing. I guess it did at very least have a quick-change barrel, which is more than you can say about our own M1918A2 BAR…

  3. Aha, I have book with interesting image of German paratroopers in Italy, who have disarmed Italian soldiers and standing by pile of these guns with Carcano rifles and Italian helmets. Always wondered what these were – as look strange in the photo with this huge boxy steel magazine feed in centre of gun – so turns out they look really weird and are not very good at all!

  4. My grandfather was lucky that he had to face this particular gun in WWII, the jams and malfunctions of it might have even saved his life.

  5. All the above comments are wrong . Sorry untill you own one . There is nothing to comment on . Contact me and I will prove to you .What cooments are wrong and break them down for you. Pick a comment .And I will comment on it.

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