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Spanish Eibar/Ruby Pistols

Back at the beginning of the 20th century, Spain had a significant number of relatively small gunmaking shops throughout its northern Basque area. The area has been known for its metalworking resources and prowess for literally two thousand years, and it is little surprise that firearms manufacture would thrive there. In addition, a loophole in Spanish patent law gave these small shops an international advantage: a Spanish patent was only valid if the device in question was actually manufactured in Spain within three years of patent being granted. The major arms designers of the time had their factories in France, Germany, Great Britain, and elsewhere, but not in Spain. So new firearms developments were, practically speaking, not patented in Spain and could be copied there without legal penalty.

One of the more successful early automatic pistol designs of the turn of the century was John Browning’s Colt and FN 1903 (which were different guns, but used the same basic design). Spanish shops quickly began making their own copies of this very popular pistol, and one of them hit the proverbial jackpot. In 1914, the company of Gabilondo y Urresti (later to become known as Llama) built a better-than-average 1903 copy called the Ruby, chambered for .32ACP and with a 9-round magazine (larger than most of these types of pistols). Gabilondo sent a sample to France, whose government was in need of a huge number of pistols for the recently-begun First World War. The French found the pistol to be well-suited to their needs (cheap and effective), and proceeded to place a standing order in May 1915 for 10,000 of them per month.

Three Spanish Ruby/Eibar pistols from various makers

Three Eibar Ruby clones – “Martian”, “Brunswig”, and “Modelo 1916″. Note differences in frame shape, sights, slide serrations, etc.

One can only imagine the Gabilondo shop receiving news of this staggering order – because at that time they had less than 10 employees (between 5 and 8, depending on which source you read). There is no conceivable way they could have produced anywhere near this quantity of firearms, but now they had a contract for them. Talk about the right kind of problem to have! In order to meet the order, Gabilondo contracted with four other gunmakers in the city of Eibar: Armeria Elgobaressa y Cia, Echealasa y Vincinai y Cia, Hijos de Angel Echeverria y Cia, and Iraola Salaverria y Cia (the “y Cia” means “and Company”). Each of these subcontractors was to produce 5000 pistols per month for Gabilondo, who would control overall QC and deliver the guns to France.By this time (August 1915) the French contract had increased to 30,000 pistols per months, and would later jump again to 50,000 per month.

The contract terms specified that the subcontractors would be fined for any failure to meet the monthly quota, and any pistols over the required 5000 would be purchased by Gabilondo at the standard rate. The early shipments of guns from Gabilondo were satisfactory to the French Army, but not surprisingly the contract terms led to a degradation of quality as shops pushed quantity over quality to maximize their profit. Still, France continued to demand more and more pistols, and the situation grew out of Gabilondo’s control. Shops around Eibar in need of work saw the French as a golden opportunity, and jumped into the fray. Some worked with Gabilondo, while many others negotiated their own deals directly with French purchasing agents. The resulting pistols had the same general configuration – .32ACP, short barrels, 9-round magazines, shrouded hammers, and safeties mounted above the trigger. None of them shared interchangeable parts (or magazines), though, and each manufacturer used its own trademark name.

For the obsessive dedicated collector, these trade names make Eibar-type pistols a virtually bottomless well. At least 45 different small companies made these pistols, sometimes marked with a company name and sometimes with names like “Liberty”, “Destroyer”, “Venus”, “Modelo 1916″, “Trust”, and others. In addition to French sales, many were also sold to the Italian Army, as that country struggled to keep up with domestic production of military pistols. Some companies manufactured the guns from scratch, while others subcontractor some or even all of the component parts to other suppliers. Production of the guns continued into the 1920s, and all in all about a million guns of the Ruby/Eibar type were made in Spain. There are a few ways to determine if a particular one was made for French WWI contract (and thus likely saw military use).

Manufacturer's code on a Spanish Eibar/Ruby pistol

Manufacturer’s code on an Eibar/Ruby pistol

Pistols made for the French Army typically had a one- or two-letter mark in an oval on the rear left of the frame. These letters identified the manufacturer, irrespective of trademark name (see below for a list of these markings). In addition, pistols were supposed to be marked with a star or pair of stars on the bottom of the frame alongside the magazine well when they were formally accepted for French service. Not all of them received this depending on how urgent the need for guns was when a shipment arrived, but it is a useful marking to look for.

French acceptance marks on an Eibar/Ruby pistol

Star markings on magazine well indicating French Army acceptance

 

The Eibar/Ruby pistols’ most distinctive identifying features are:

  • Shrouded hammer
  • Lumpy-looking safety lever above trigger
  • Longitudinal grooves around the muzzle for disassembly
  • Long 9-round magazine with heel release

Any two different makers’ version will vary in the details of other features, including slide length, slide serrations, lanyard loop, sights, magazine release, grip panels, and exact frame profile. Mechanically, they are all straight blowback and lack a last-round holdopen feature or grip safety.

One feature that can be tied to wartime service is the addition of a large rivet-looking knob on the left side of the slide. This was added to address the reported problem of tight French military holsters catching and disengaging the safety lever when the guns were drawn, and this was blamed for a number of accidental discharges. The added knob held the holster material up away from the side of the gun, and prevented it from catching on the safety. The knob was clearly added after manufacture, as it will typically cover part of the serial number or other markings on the slide.

Holster safety knob on a military Eibar/Ruby pistol

Knob added after manufacture to prevent a tight holster from catching the safety lever.

Eibar Manufacturers and Codes

Please note: We are unable to verify much of this list, as we found it copied from a since-deleted web page and we have no source for the information. It does check out when compared to the handful of Eibar pistols in our reference collection, so we provide it here to be considered suggestive but not definitive.

Military manufacturers, with associated trade names:

A: Gaspar Arizaga, Eibar – “Arizaga”, “Misdial”, “Pinkerton”, “Warwinch”, sometimes the trade names were not used
AA: Azanza y Arrizabalaga, Eibar * – “A.A. Reims”, “Modelo 1916″
AE: La Armeria Elgoibaresa, Eligobar – “Lusitania”
AG: Francisco Arizmendi y Goenaga, Eibar – “Ideal”, “Roland”, “Brunswig”
AH and AR: Acha Hermanos, Eibar or Ermunda – “Looking Glass”, sometimes the trade name was not used *Pistols marked “Looking Glass” seem to be post-WWI made*
AK: Fabrica de Armas Alkartasuna, SA, Guernica – “Alkar”, “Kapitan”
AL: Aldazabal, Leturiondo Y Cia, Eibar * – “Aldazabal”, sometimes the trade name was not used
AZ: Arizmendi, Zulaica y Cia, Eibar – “Cebra”, some may be over stamped “Beistegui Hermanos”
BA: Fab. de Bersaluzze Arieto-Aurena Y Cia, Eibar – “Allies”
BC: Victor Bernedo y Cia, Eibar – “B.C.”, “Bernedo”, sometimes the trade names were not used
BH: Beistegui Hermanos, Eibar – “Beistegui”, “B.H.”, “Bulwark”, “Libia”, “Paramount”, “1914 Model Automatic Pistol”
CU: unknown
CZ: unknown
EA: Arostegui Eulogio, Eibar – “Azul”, “E.A.”, “Oscillant-Azu”
EC: Ergulaga y Cia, Eibar – “Fiel”
EU: Esperanza y Unceta, Guernica – “Model 1915″ ( or 1916 ), “Astra Patent”, “Brunswig Model 1916″, “Victory”
GB: Gregorio Bolumburo, Eibar – “Deluxe”, “Gloria”, “Giralda”, “Marina”, “Regent”, “Regina”, “Rex”
GN: Garate, Anitua y Cia, Eibar – “Danton”, “El Lunar”, “Express”, “GAC”, “Garate”, “G.N.”, “La Lira”, “L’Eclair”, “Sprinter”, “Tigre”, “Triumph”
GU: Gabilondo y Urresti, Eibar or Elgoibar – “Bufalo”, “Gabilondos”, “Radium”, “Ruby”, “Ruby Extra”, “Tauler”
HE: Hijos de A. Echeverria, Eibar – “Vesta” (code may also be marked on slide), “Izarro”
I: Bonifacio Echeverria, Eibar – “Estrella”, “Izarra”, “Star”, “Vesta”
IG: Isidrio Gatzanaga, Eibar – “Destroyer”, “Gazantanaga”, “Horse Destroyer”, “Indian”, “Sureté”
IO: La Industria Obrea, Eibar – No trade names used
IS: Iraola y Salaverria y Cia – No trade names used
JE: Javier Echaniz, Eibar – “Defender”
LC: Laplana y Capdevila – Trade names are unknown
LH: Lasangabaster Hermanos, Eibar – “Douglas”
MA: Martin Bascaran, Eibar – “Martian”, “Thunder M1919″
MB: Fa de Martin A. Bascaran, Eibar – “Martian”
MS: Modesto Santos, Eibar … “Action”, “M.S.”
RG: unknown
RH: Retolaza Hermanos, Eibar – “Brompetier”, “Gallus”, “Liberty”, “Military”, “Paramount”, “Puppy”, “Retolaza M1914″, “Stosel”, “Titan”, “Titanic”, “Titanic M1914″, “Velo-Brom”, “1914 Model Automatic Pistol”
TM: unknown
UC: Urrejola y Cia, Eibar – “U.C.”, “Urrejola”
VD: unknown
VB: Victor Bernado y Cia, Eibar. No trade names used. *Some may have extended barrels*
ZC: Zulaica y Compania or Cia, Eibar – “Royal”, “Victory”, “Vincitor M1914″, “Vincitor M1914 No.2″, “Zulaica M1914″

Other companies making Eiber-type pistols:

Acha y Cia, Eibar … “Acha”
A. Aldazabal, Eibar * … “A.A.A.”
A. Errasti, Eibar – “Broncho”
Aguirre y Cia, Eibar – “Basculant”, “Le Dragon”
Antonio Errasti, Eibar – “Dreadnought”, “Errasti”, “Oicet”, “Smith Americano”
Apaoloza Hermanos, Zumorraga – “Apaoloza”, “Triomphe”
Apaolozo Hermanos, Eibar – “Paramount”
Arana y Cia, Eibar – “El Cano”
Ariola Hermanos, Eibar – “Ariola”
Arizmendi y Goenaga, Eibar – “F.A.”, “F.A.G.”, “Teuf-Teuf”, “Waldman”
Armas de Fuego, Guernica – “Alkartasuna”
Armero Espacialitas Reunidos, Eibar – “Alfa”, “Omega”
Aspiri y Cia, Eibar – “Avion”, “Colon”
Astra Unceta y Cia, Guernica – “Astra”, “Cadix”, “Camper”
Barrenechea y Gallastegui, Eibar – “Barrenechea”
Casimir Santos, Eibar – “El Cid”, “Vencedor”
Cooperativa Obrera, Eibar – “Longines”
Crucelegui Hermanos, Eibar – “Brong Petit”, “Bron-Sport”, “C.H.”, “Le Brong”, “Puppy”
Domingo Acha, Eibar – “Triplex”
Echave y Arizmendi, Eibar – “Basque”, “Bronco”, “E.A.”, “Echasa”, “Lightning”, “Lur-Panzer”, “Pathfinder”, “Protector”, “Renard”, “Selecta M1918″, “Selecta M1919″, “Vite M1913″, “Vite M1914″, “Vite M1915″
Erquiaga Muguruzu y Cia, Eibar – “Diane”, “Fiel”
Esperanza y Cia, Guernica – “Astra”
Esperanza y Unceta, Eibar – “Astra:, “Campo Giro”
Esprin Hermanos, Eibar – “Euskaro”
F. Arizmendi, Eibar – “Boltun”, “Guerre”, “Kaba Special”
F. Ormachea, Eibar – “Bron-Grand”, “Duan”, “Merke”
Fab. d’armes de Grande Précision, Eibar – “Bulwark”, “Colonial”, “Grande Précision”, “Helvece”, “Jupiter”, “Minerve”, “Trust”
Fab. de Armas Garantizada, Eibar – “Apache”, “Garantizada”, “Rural”
Francisco Arizmendi, Eibar – “Arizmendi”, “Roland”, “Singer”, “Victor”, “Ydeal”
G. Bolumburu, Eibar – “Bolumburo”, “Bristol”
Gabilondo y Cia, Eibar or Elgoibar – “Danton”, “Guisasola”, “Mugica”, “Perfect”, “Plus Extra”
Garate Hermanos, Eibar or Ermua – “Cantabria”, “Velostark”
Gastanaga, Trocaola y Cia, Eibar – “T.A.C.”, “Trocaola”
Guisasola Hermanos, Eibar – “G.H.”, “Guisasola”
Hijos de C. Arrizabalaga, Eibar – “Arrizabalaga”, “Campeon”, “Especial”
Hijos de Calixto Arrizabamaga, Eibar – “Sharpshooter”, “Terrible”
Hijos de Jorge Bascaran, Eibar – “Marke”, “Martigny”
Iraola Salaverria y Cia, Eibar – “Destructor”, “Iraola”, “Salaverria”
J. Arrizabalaga, Eibar – “Esmi”
José Aldazabal, Eibar * – “Imperial”
Larranaga y Elartza, Eibar – “Jubala”, “L.E.”
Lascauren y Olasola, Eibar – “El Perro”
Manuel Escodin, Eibar – “Escodin”
Manufactura de Armas “Demon”, Eibar – “Demon”
Mendiola, Eibar – “Vainquer”
Obrea Hermanos, Eibar – “Colon”, “Iris”, “La Industrial”, “O.H.”, “Orbea”, “Perfecto”
Ojanguren y Marcaido, Eibar – “Brow”, “O.M.”
Ojanguren y Vidosa, Eibar – “Apache”, “Crucero”, “Furia”, “Militar Y Policia”, “Ojanguren”, “Puppet”, “Salvaje”, “Tanque”
Onandia Hermanos, Eibar – “Onandia”
Orueta Hermanos, Eibar – “Oculto”, “Tanker”
S. Arostegui, Eibar – “Browreduit”
S.E.A.M., Eibar – “Praga”, “Regent”, “Silesia”, “Sivispacem”, “Waco”
Santiago Salaberrin, Eibar – “Etna”, “Invicta”, “Protector”, “Tisan”, “Unis”
Suinaga y Aramperri, Eibar – “S&A”
Tomas de Urizar, Eibar or Barcelona – “Continental”, “Dek-Du”, “Express”, “Imperial”, “La Basque”, “Le Secours”, “Phoenix”, “Premier”, “Princeps”, “Puma”, “Union”, “Venus”
Unceta y Cia, Guernica – “Brunswig”, “Fortuna”, “Leston”, “Liégeoise”, “Museum”, “Salso”, “Union”, “Victoria”
Union Armera Eibaressa, Eibar – “U.A.E.”
Union Fab. de Armas, Eibar – “Rival M1913″
Unknown Makers – “Aurora”, “Boix”, “Burgham Superior”, “Ca-Si”, “Cobra”, “Mosser”, “Muxi”, “Oyez”, “Peerless”, “Rayon”, “R.E.”, “Reform”, “Republic”, “Rex”, “S.M.”, “Tatra”, “Velo-Mith”, “Velosmith”, “Vilar”, “Vulcain”, “Zwylacka”
Urquiaga y Muguruzu, Eibar – “Marte”
V. Fabrica De Armas, Durango – “Vencedor”
Zuloga y Cia, Eibar – “Volontaire”
Zumorraga y Cia, Eibar – “Paramount”

112 comments to Spanish Eibar/Ruby Pistols

  • Thomas

    How promonent was the M. Zulaica & Co. Eibar during WWI? And about how much would one be worth?

    • Kozmic

      I have a 1915 in nice shape, has the stars on the bottom of the grips as well as the EU with an oval on the back of the gun as well as the clip. Also have a very old box of billets too. Are these highly sot after by collectors? And is there anyway to get some history on the gun with the serial number? Who’s owned it etc?

      • They are not really sought by collectors; only the small group of folks interested in French military handguns. And unfortunately, there is no was to find any records of where any particular one may have been used.

  • Andrew Marcell

    The Ruby was either very good or very bad.Many are in drawers and “rat holes” in France “just in case”. There is a holster for the Ruby that looked like an ordinary rifle ammo pouch.It carried the pistol and two magazines. The lump on the Ruby slide to prevent accidental moving of the safety was done during the great rebuild of the 1920s & 30s. The Ruby saw long service for a supposedly poor quality weapon. There were Spanish revolvers copies of the Smith & Wesson in 8mm that were also widely used during WW1 and WW2. All in all it is said that nearly a million pistols and revolvers were made in Spain for the French Military. There are still Rubies rebuilt in the 30s in storage somewhere in France.

  • Mark K

    Does anyone know where parts can be purchesed or fabricated? I need a 2 piece firing pin assembly for a 1915 model by Espiranza y Unceta.
    Thanks

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  • David B.

    I am looking for a set of grips for my Stosel 32acp. Do you know where i might find a set? Thanks!

    • Bob

      Hello. I do not have any grips, but I have a question. You’re the only other person I know of besides Ed Buffaloe that even mentions a Stosel. I am desperate to find out about the ejector for mine. Most Ruby-like pistols have a notch cut in the back end of the slide to accommodate the ejector. Mine does not have that notch. The ejector, which is broken on mine, appears to be some kind of mechanism that rotates up into position when the magazine is inserted. If you will send me an email, I’ll send you pictures of what I mean. If yours sounds like mine, I’d sincerely love to have a couple of pictures of your ejector so I can either find one or make two or three. I have an EDM cutter at my disposal and can probably have a handful made.

      Please let me know.

      Thanks,
      Bob

  • zackary smith

    yes i finally found information on the gun that my stepdad had in pieces and its an original made for the french army cool!!!! does anybody know where to get a new barrel though when i put the gun together it looked like sombody had it buried possibly somebody found it buried in a trench

  • zackary smith

    what would be the value on an original that was dug up from the trenches

  • Artur

    Does anyone know about Spanish pistol ATE 182 AS TREVINO EIBAR -how much is worth?
    Thanks…:-)

  • Do you or do you know anyone who sells “Star Firestar” gunparts. if so, please let me know. thank you

  • Jerry

    Does anyone know the value of a Beristegul Hermans Eibar 1914 automatic pistol, French army accept?

  • Tony

    Does anyone know how to take these down? I have a SEAM “Regent”. I can get the barrel out but can’t get the slide off. Thanks.

    • Once the barrel is out, the slide should come right off the front of the frame…

      • Bob

        Most of the variations dis-assemble the same. With the slidelock/safety UP, pull the slide back to catch. Rotate barrel 180 degrees and remove. The slide should the move forward to the muzzle end and come off. SOMETIMES this will not work. IN THIS CASE after the barrel is removed push the slide forward til it stops and with a non-marring hammer or other suitable tool tap the back end of the slide SHARPELY. It should then come on off the receiver. The hammer has a cam on the top front which should allow its’ depression when pushing the slide forward BUT the alignment is incorrect causing the need of more force than usually necessary.

        • Cameron

          Hi, I appreciate your help with these guns. I have an old Echave y Arizmendi Bronco 1918 6.35 mm, and I can’t get the slid off for anything. I’ve tried your suggestion to strike it with a non-marring hammer to no avail. Any other suggestions? The gun functions otherwise and is a load of fun.
          Thanks,
          Cameron

  • Bill

    Great site you all have here! I am in need of a set of grip screws for an Astra Model 1924. So far Numrich etc etc etc etc, has nothing. Local smiths want $60 to look through their drawers to locate one screw. OR, $60 to re-tap present holes and grips to a current crew size. SO< I am appealing to you all for assistance in locating these screws. Thanks tremendously. I would like to keep it as it was manufactured really.

  • JJ Mitchell

    I have a “Ruby” or “spnish” style 32 acp that I cannot find ANY markings other than serial number on due to some one jewling the whole pistol. I am trying to determine exactly what it is so as to find a magazine for it. Is there any way of telling who made it other than by the letters that WERE on the left side of frame? The slide serrations are straight and as to taking sldie off, the barrel will come out but cannot get the slide off at all. I can e-mail pictures to anyone who might help me identify this little pistol. I appreciate ANY and ALL help/info.

    • M Renk

      Mine was stuck also, I removed removed the grips. On the left side, I punched out the top two pins. The slide then released.hope this helps

  • David Courtenay

    Iam looking for any info on a pistol: Automatica Espanola-pats 62004 Y 67577 “bufalo” cal 6.35 made in Spain 15392. The clip holds 6 rounds and only has one screw on the wooken grip. Anything would be appreciated. Thanks.

    • Lauren brown

      I have a pistol that says automatica espanola-pats 62004 y 67577 bufalo cal 765 and I can’t find the proof marks on any website .. It’s a triad of a B with squiggly lines and p.v in the middle then what looks like a buffalo head with horns ( I’m not sure) it had a 4 digit seriel number.. Can anyone help me out.. It’s got browning pistol grips on it which I don’t know came with it.. Or what..

      • The P.V. indicates the Eibar proof house in Spain, and the “B” means it was proofed in 1928. The bulls head is hard to identify without seeing a photo, but my guess would be that it is actually a rampant lion, which is also indicative of manufacture in Eibar, which is where Bufalos were made. These three markings are often seen together on early Spanish automatic pistols.

    • Terry

      I also have a “Cia Bufalo” 25 cal. Mine appears to be gilded in gold or brass inlaid within carvings on all areas but the handle. My Step Father’s Father brought it back from WW II.

  • Gunfighterzero

    i think you left Alkartasuna off of your list, or i just missed it

  • randy

    does anyone have a clue how to find out information on a spanish 32 semi automatic

  • Kyle McClure

    I’m in need of the safety for and I.G. Destroyer… IG: Isidrio Gatzanaga, Eibar “Destroyer”. I have a 95% complete and clean pistol that I’d love to get working.

    • Kurt Ackermann

      I also have an I.G. “Destroyer” pistol, and have been trying to find a recoil spring.
      Any chance you could send me dimensions of yours in inches? I need overall length, wire diameter, and most importantly, the number of coils. Inside diameter and outside diameter would be helpful as well.

      Thanks!

  • james nault

    looking for a magazine that will fit my spanish eibar pistol

  • Mark Petchinsky

    I have one of these pistols with the VD two-letter mark in an oval on the rear left of the frame and two stars on the bottom of the frame alongside the magazine well. It does not have the safety lever above the safety though. It was found by a friend of mine in his backyard and it isn’t in very good condition. I am thinking about re-bluing it and making custom grips for it but I don’t want to mess up any historical value it might have. Can anyone tell me if it has historical value and shouldn’t be restored?

    Thanks
    Mark

  • Rick simmert

    I found a spanish 32 cal made in spain. I think it is an brunswig eibar ruby clone. the serial number is 2666. does anyone know where i can get more information on this gun?

  • Rick simmert

    the gun i mentioned earlier has triumph stamped on the side so i assume it is a true eibar. any help out there with a date?

  • Robert Black

    Does anyone know where I can get a clip for a 1914

  • Danny Sebastian

    I came across a Bufalo 6.35 pistol with serial number 156xx. I really would like to learn the year it was made. I know it was between 1919-1925, just don’t know the exact year…

  • Doug

    Anyone know where I can get a slide for a 635 1911 Victoria ACP 25 ? The only pistol I found that is identical is in the Eiber Museum in Spain. My slide has the action bar retaining portion broken off, otherwise is is a great looking pistol with a great history I’m sure. Could the slide be repaired by a gunsmith?

  • Toby McLaughlin

    Were is the serial on the pistol I got the stars but can’t find the serial

  • Danny Sebastian

    Me again – anyone know where I can find exploded diagrams or detailed disassembly info for Bufalo 6.35?

  • hola tengo una pistola eibar martian 7.65 a la cual me falta el cargador alguien tiene alguno para la venta desde ya grasias

  • Clif

    I acquired my grandfathers Ruby. It is unlike the ones I’ve seen here in that it is marked with .25 cal on the slide and .32 cal on the bolt. It als has only one screw for the grips and the magazine holds 6(?)shells.

  • mike ratkovich

    I am looking for a photo or diagram of the disconnector for my Izzara 6.65 (Ruby). I believe it is a bar that fits on top of the trigger transfer bar under the left grip panel. Without it, the pistol fires one shot, chambers a new round, but the hammer follows the slide forward. If I can not find a part, maybe I can make one…if I see what it looks like.

  • Savage Dennis Lively

    I am picking up an Astra 1918 Bronco in .25 that needs a firing pin extension rod, does anyone know where I can source one?

  • Ryan

    I have a 25 that has fabrique nationale d’armes on the slide but is stamped Spain on the frame. Any info is great

  • Jim

    I would like to know the price for a Azauzay Arriaabalaga Elbar (Espanal) semiautomatic handgun with the #33918 on the gun. I have had the gun for 20+ years, it has not been fired for at least 19 years. I have a partial box of 32 ammo. also.

  • don

    I have an ALDAZABAL 32CAL SER 6569 HAVE FIRED IT AND IT WORKS WELL ABOUT HOW MUCH IS IT WORTH?

  • Steve

    I have a BOLTON PATENT spanish 6.5 pistol

    I need either e new magazine or a new magazine spring.

    Does anyone know who I can contact?

    Thanks

  • croarmy

    Hi i need info obout this pistol, sharp shooter 635 m1919 p.??

  • Chuck McBride

    Hello Mr. McCollum,
    I to own one of the Ruby 7.65 pistols made by GABILONDOS marked GU inside of the oval. I wanted to share a couple of things I have noticed over the years of owning one of these in y opinion fine little weapons. I have seen a couple besides mine and one of them had the two stars beside the magazine well. Mine has also numbers stamped inside the Stars one is a 7 the other an 11, which has been hinted at by some of my collector friends as the acceptance date for the French of July 1911 I do not know this to be true but is logical. All parts in this weapon are marked with a 5 digit matching serial numbers with acceptance to the magazine which has no serial number just the oval with RH inside. I have found while disassembling this pistol ( can not see any reason for it) leave the safety in the3 safe position and pull on trigger while sliding receiver forward and it will just about fall apart. I took several tries when I first got it to get it apart to clean. hope this helps you did a great article and I thank you,

  • Scott keil

    I have a arizmendi, zulaica y CIA marked cebra and overstamed with beistequi hermanos with the French military code stamp AZ serial#66240 everything matches it looks in good shape broke it down put it in the sonic wash and re-oiled it functions fine can you tell me anymore about this weapon why did they over stamp it? Also the left grip has the bottom right corner is cut out from a picture I seen the pistol had a Maynard hole and this pistol dont

  • TomTB

    My father had a Star Model B in 9mm
    Looked like a 1911, but had an external extractor, no grip safety and a right side dove-tailed disconnector
    I understand Star made a Model A with a selector switch
    Was good for a mag dump, but didn’t sell too well!

  • Daniel Harrison

    Kudos on a spectacular site. I have a small but growing collection of early semi-auto pistols and this site has given me a wealth of information and inspiration! A friend recently gave me a Ruby 7.62 pistol without a magazine. It is one of the “maker unknown” clones but sadly when I took it down I discovered that the firing pin was shattered – probably a result of age and steel that was brittle from overhardening. Apparently this was a common problem with some of the clones made by Basque cottage industry fabricators subcontracted by Gabilondo in order to be able to meet the huge production numbers ordered by the French in WW!. From what I have read spare parts are a nightmare – especially for the no nmae clones, and I can’t find anyone who makes spares other than magazines. Anyone have any thoughts on a source or failing that, does anyone have any experience with having a new one fabricated.

    Meanwhile I recently stumbled on several pages of a book posted on line which shows a number of machine pistols fitted with carbine detachable stocks that were used by the Guardia during the Spanish Civil War.
    Interestingly, the Ruby was among those that were converted to full auto, although these did not have stocks.
    An interesting concept; the author comments that they “must have been uncontrolable when in full auto mode”-
    moreover, what would be the point? You only have 9 shots!

    For those interested here’s the link:http://www.catalogacionarmas.com/public/parte3cap12.pdf

  • Terry

    I have ruby pistols has shield with crown and eather dog or puppy and pv stamp also has circle with what looks like (A A) also automatic -1925 gun has no barrel or clip handles are wood or plastic with stars I want to restore but can’t find parts help

    • I can’t recommend any specific place – parts are very difficult to find for these because each manufacturer’s parts are made to slightly different specs.

    • tom

      terry. i have that gun. unsure of year. number 681 on right side. has 3 crazy lion stamps.1 is on barrel.no stars on frame by clip. want to sell trigger assembly?

  • Terry

    Do you know what any of the marking mean also has frar-1925

  • Tom Mintz

    Hi,
    Just received a Azanza y Arrizabalaga .32 pistol and the original GI bring back paperwork. It has the (now missing) rivet in the slide and the safety lever. Cannot seen to be able to disassemble the weapon as the slide only moves back about 1/2″….Any help?
    Thanks!!

  • William

    I have an excellent condition (90+%) Astra Model 1915 with ‘Hope’ stamped on the barrel. It is in .32 acp caliber but is missing the front sight. Is there anyone who might have one of these or know where an original one is available?

  • michael

    I bought a “looking Glass” it is very clean. it says on the side 6.35 ermua 1934 it has a lion and a shield with the maker mark PV. Every single piece of the pistol has a 3 digit number and the all match. the pistol will not fire when i put the take down pin in.when i look in there appears to have a small point like a sear on the top of the trigger that i think hit the take down pin. if I pull the take down pin out I can cock and fire the pistol over and over with out trouble. I am going insane trying to figure this out I am starting to think the trigger may be in upside down I just need some help please I build a lot of guns this is very basic and simple I just don’t know whats left.

  • Doug

    I have a 7.65 1914 model automatic pistol, RETOLAZA”eibar. RH is stamped on the rear left side of the frame. On the mag well are the 2 stars indicating approved for the French military. The numbers on the barrel and slide are the same.
    I would be interested in an original clip, the one that I have says UNION 7_65 on it and looks as though someone made it fit.
    Thanks.

    • nunya

      Ruby pistol magazines are famous for not fitting unless you find the exact same manufacturer. It is common to find them without a mag or with a mismatched mag that has been modified to fit. It is incredibly hard to find mags at all, much less correct ones.
      If yours works, be thrilled, but keeping an eye out for the right one can’t hurt.
      Don’t expect it soon, though!

  • cristiano

    boa noite gostaria de saber onde posso arranjar um carregador para uma pistola semi automática de calibre 7,65mm de marca Alkartasuna.

    Atencisoamente

  • Rene Gauthier

    I have a modrl 1916 and I think the cal is a 725. On the top left in the oval it is an EA marking, sn 4372, The starting name on the side of the slide reads HOHAVRYAR- – – – unknown. Can anyone help me id this pistol. It looks like the middle one in the picture above. Thanks

  • does anybody have parts to ”star firestar” and ”star starfire pistols. if so, please contact me.

  • David Thurman

    I have a Ruby Stosel And need the safty botton do you any one that would have one thanks David

  • Zhang Yi

    It seems that China had bought some Spanish Ruby pistols in the early 20th century. I found one with a “Astra” mark in Suzhou Police Museum. The gun uses 7.65 mm rounds. I recognized it because its grip/magazine is longer than common M1903s’ and it is not a Japanese Hamada pistol.

  • Jerry Roberts

    I have a ruby it came from my grandfather the gun is in great condition and it shoots great.It has MB in a oval on rear of gun and chrome clip it also has martian stamped on slide beside cal 765 and cal 32 it as has beistegui hermanos stamped over another name on the slide and it has no nob to protect the safety. The look like they are silver can anybody tell me anything about this gun?

  • LDC

    “Pistols and Revolvers” by Hoggs & Weeks has a pretty good listing of the early-20th-century Spanish manufacturers in Eibar, with their various model names (there was one called the “Terrible”!) Ezell’s “Handguns of the World” pictures a 7.65 “Union” pistol from WWI French service with a 35-round horseshoe-shaped magazine that reached up and around to nearly touch the dust cover. Talk about “weight of fire!” No word about its reliability.

  • Cindie

    I own a very Old all original EIBAR Muff??? Or Percussion Pistol. no serial number. 36 is on various parts of gun. On top OF OCTAGON double barrel is ETCHED DOMINGO ALBERDI EIBAR. It has walnut carved grip with forged cast holders at bottom & FOLD AWAY Double Triggers. It is my belief to have been forged around 1850 and is 1 of 12 that were made BY a local family gun shop. I have NOT found another that resembles or even looks similar!!!

    Appears to be the lone survivor….. Any interest or information. Willing to sell!!!!

  • My dad brought an early .38 APC Star. The slide spring assembly was lost in a break end when it was disassembled and discarded on site. Whereas I can offer serial numbers and identifying marks, it appears the frames of Ruby’s remain the same. If this is true, I very much would like to assemble this family heirloom. The spring assembly is just a hair longer than three inches. Anyone have one or a source?

  • Michel

    Hello guys

    I’m looking for a used magazine for a Star CO .25. Really hard to find on the web.
    May be one of you have it in stock. If yes, I’m interested

    regards

  • jesse

    Hey my grandfather left be a martin 32 it only has four serial numbers so I figure it must be old. Was just trying to figure out about how old and how much it could maybe be worth

  • colin-olivier

    You can find some parts in Paris : Armurerie de la bourse (metro richelieu drouot) or in french Bourse aux armes organized for gun collectors.

  • john

    I. believe I have an El Cid 1915 25acp. I say this because there is no maker or manufaturer on the slide.There is no caliber on slide.The mag holds 6. Also no serial # can be found anywhere. There is two digits repeated on several parts but you need a magnifying glass to see them. very strange is two long grooves on the top rear of the slide. about 2″ long function? The one piece firing pin is broken.I need a replacement or repair it has a carved out part that a screw moved as the slide was in action. I wonder if mine was a rush job?

  • Evan

    I have come across an old Ruby, definitely a service pistol, and have come across a problem. Two, actually. The barrel is very heavily worn,leaving very little rifling left. The other is that it occasionally doesn’t chamber a round, and that’s a nuisance. Tough to get things running smoothly again. Any suggestions?

  • I have a Spanish 6.35 mm acp pistol, the slide seams loose,
    To me, is this normal for this type of pistol,
    I am not sure it is safe to fire, other than that
    It works fine, or should I replace the slide with a,
    Good used, will I his help the loose slide condition.
    Thanks
    Alalthekittyspal

  • I have a protector Automatic Pistol Cal 6.35mm, on the slide,
    On the frame, bottom, where, the magazine, opening is, states, Spain other side serial number 37567.
    Could someone please tell me the year of production production, the slide measures 4.375 to 4.390 inches.
    Thanks
    Alalthekittyspal@gmial

  • Help!!!!!!!
    Please could, any one, tell me the date of production,
    Of this Pistol, Protector acp
    SLIDE STARTED
    PROTECTOR
    Automatic Pistol CAL 6.35mm serial number 37567

    Thank you for your time and help in this matter

    Alalthekittyspal@gmial

  • (REG:6.35mm “PROTECTOR” AUTOMATIC PISTOL
    THIS IS A 1918 VP “PROTECTOR” AUTOMATIC PISTOL CAL.6.35mm
    SERIAL NUMBER 37567,MADE BY SANTAGO SALABERRIN ELIBAR SPAIN,
    COULD SOME ONE PLEASE TELL ME,WHAT YEAR IT WAS MADE,
    AND TOTAL PRODUCTION,RUN FOR THESE PISTOLS,AND THE LAST YEAR,
    MADE.
    THANK YOU FOR ANY HELP YOU COULD GIVE IN THIS MATTER
    Alalthekittyspal

  • nunya

    Alalthekitty,
    Because of the nature of the production of these Ruby type pistols, few (if any) records were kept. Furthermore, your pistol wasn’t even made by one of the larger companies, and their number of employees was probably fewer than 20, possibly even less than 10. Added to that, during the Spanish Civil War most of these small weapons makers were permanently put out of business, many of them violently. Records were most likely all destroyed. This is a dead end, unfortunately.
    As for finding parts, good luck. You’ll need a lot of luck to even find another of the same magazines, let alone another functioning slide. I have a Ruby type that is only missing the recoil spring, and finding just that part has proven impossible for the last few years.

    Regarding the idea of safely using your gun if it has a loose slide, you’re likely to have big trouble. I’ve heard reports that these guns were so poorly made that WHEN THEY WERE NEW they had serious problems. This included accidentally firing off the entire magazine all at once. It was supposedly so common that many French soldiers thought the guns were designed to function this way. Don’t think this is a “cool” idea, as parts can start flying off the gun, especially into your face.

    I would advise you to consider your Ruby as an artifact of WWI, and not a functioning weapon.

  • jimbo

    I have the broken firing pin for my 25 acp El Cid. Is there anyone out there who can fabricate a new one. I will pay stupid $. My great uncle brought several back from WW2 but only one 25 acp. It doesn’t seem hard with right tool using my broken one as template. nantucketkoch@gmail.com

  • Kurt

    Jimbo,
    Any REAL gunsmith should be able to make this. It is quite simple for them, assuming they’re ACTUALLY a gunsmith, not a part-replacer like so many seem to be these days.
    It’s simply a matter of getting the right diameter of hardened steel drill-rod and removing all of the material that doesn’t look like your old firing pin. The hard part is to properly temper the steel again afterward, not too soft, not too brittle. That’s what you’ll pay money for…I’ve had gunsmiths do this job for $25-$35. Is that “Stupid $”?

  • Vern W

    I have a colt .32 just handed down from my father. No stars on the bottom of the grip, and the only manufacturer markings or identifying information is as follows.

    “ME” stamped on right side of frame above trigger with a #4219 (assuming this is the serial due to a paper registration I pieced together)

    Also, there are curved graphics appearing on the lower portion of the grips running from side to side with the high part of the curve toward the top of the gun.

    I would appreciate any information on restoring that would be helpful. Very good condition and extremely easy to strip.

    There is no bump for the holster safety.

    any information would be very helpful, trying to trace a bit of dad :)

    Thank you!

    Vern

    • Kurt

      Vern W,
      As far as “restoring” the weapon, I cannot stress enough the importance of the ORIGINAL finish. Just because it looks shiny and new doesn’t mean it is worth more, unless it is truly in original condition.

      As for what you’ve got there, my best guess would be a “Manuel Escodin, Eibar – ‘Escodin'” pistol.
      Not all Ruby pistols got the stars on the bottom of the grip frame. Many were produced before and after (mostly after) for civilian sale. Yours is very likely one of those since it has neither the stars nor the large rivet near the safety.

      As for tracing the origins of this pistol, that is extremely unlikely. The Escodin “factory” didn’t survive the 1936-1939 Spanish Revolution (it was likely just a tiny shop with less than five workers), and neither did any records they might have had. Furthermore, if the pistol was imported here before 1968, it would not have been marked by an importer. Therefore, you will have nowhere to start your search for any record of transfers between FFL dealers, if any such exists. Unless there is some paperwork with your firearm, you’ve just got the history that the iron in your hands presents. Nothing illegal about it unless you’re unfortunate enough to live in one of the more communist areas of our beloved country.

  • Craigx

    I have one of these w/ a marking “the best automatique sprinter patent for…” I cant figure out the manufacturer of my pistol… I hope one of you guys know it… It doesn’t have a number and doesn’t have that thing to prevent the safety from being accidentaly moved… Made some research and found out that the manufacturer os a company called “garand”? Im not sure though…

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