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US T24 Machine gun (MG42)

The US War Department requested that the Saginaw Steering Gear division of General Motors build two prototype copies of the German MG42 in .30-06 for military testing. Note the American-style rear sight and bipod. We have the Aberdeen photos of one of these machine guns and the original report from its first test.

Testing Reports

US Army T24 testing report

US Army T24 testing report

 

Photos

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5 comments to US T24 Machine gun (MG42)

  • John Coleman

    I remember H&R made two MG34’s in 30-06. It took them a whole year to figure out that the bolt didn’t have enough travel for the cartridge. By that time, it was determined that the MG34 required too much machine work to put into production. I have been looking for more information on them.

    • bjarne

      Norway rebid all the MG34 the Germans left here in 45 first to 3006 (MG34f1)and then to 7,62 x 51 nato (MG34f2)so this is not right.

  • John Coleman

    The US-made MG-34’s were not conversions but strict copies of the 8 mm model with a 30-06 barrel. They never worked right but even if they had, it was determined the amount of machining and work required was too much to bother making them. It may well be possible to modify the original design to work with 30-06 but the two initial US-made models did not work properly and no effort was made to modify them to work.

  • Jacob Morgan

    Saginaw mainly made 30 caliber machineguns and M1 carbines. First job after college was at one of the other (post-war) Sagainaw Steering plants, but did visit the plant that had done the war production (plant #2) once. A massive plant with machinery jammed in every which place, that facility made the actual steering gears, while other plants made pumps, CV joints, half-shafts, and steering columns. Once during some construction a wall was opened up and some M1 carbines were found–some worker had stashed the there during the war hoping to retrieve them later, but never did. Of course the police were called, and who knows where they ended up.

  • Jim Sieglitz

    While in the service, we were not allowed to use standard U.S. weaponry where we were assigned. We were shown the Ingram SAM-1 in 5.56mm. Since it was a derivative of the M-1 carbine and it was to be found almost everywhere – we liked the choice. The SAM-1 was lighter, full auto and the ammo weighed half the 7.62mm for the M-14. We asked if it could be chambered for the AK-47 7.62mm. No was the answer.The two MG’s available to us were the BAR and the M1919. Both were over weight and cumbersome. The T-24 chambered for the 5.56mm or better yet the AK-47 7.62mm would have provided excellent support and the Southeast Asian warriors would have had no problem carrying and using the T-24. We also took the Smith & Wesson 40mm gas guns to fire the M79 grenades. We replaced the stock with a swing stock like the one found on the M1A3. Excellent fire support and quicker to use that a 60mm mortar. The only weapon we balked at was the Boys 55 for long range sniping. It was heavy and kicked like a mule and the ammo was hard to get. The first alternative was by Iver Johnson – the M500. A joke. The firer had to remove the bolt to remove the spent casing and replace it with a new cartridge. The firer would lose the sight picture. Out of pure chance, a Marine armorer in Da Nang offered a rebuilt 50 cal. M8 semi-auto spotting rifle with a 20 round magazine. The forerunner to the Barret 50 cal. Much lighter and with a 17 power German scope – the firer could keep enemy targets in sight at allo times. Not quite a full M2 cartridge, but still hard hitting. We had the frangible slugs changed to standard M2 ball slugs. The Marine armorer also showed how to drill the nose and insert rim fire cartridges to result in explosive slugs we could use on trucks and other vehicles on the Ho Chi Minh Freeway.

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