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		<title>Nepalese Gahendra lineage</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 13:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>As you may recall, I picked up a Nepalese &#8220;Gahendra&#8221; rifle from IMA as a gunsmithing project, which turned out to be more complicated than I&#8217;d planned on. Well, I&#8217;ve been doing a bit of looking into the origin of these rifles &#8211; the look superficially like Martinis, but aren&#8217;t. Common theory on the &#8216;net [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you may recall, I picked up a Nepalese &#8220;Gahendra&#8221; rifle from <a href="http://www.ima-usa.com/nepalese-gahendra-martini-henry-rifle-577-450-untouched.html">IMA</a> as a gunsmithing project, which turned out to be <a href="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/gahendra-gunsmithing-1">more complicated than I&#8217;d planned on</a>. Well, I&#8217;ve been doing a bit of looking into the origin of these rifles &#8211; the look superficially like Martinis, but aren&#8217;t. Common theory on the &#8216;net is that they were developed locally in Nepal &#8211; but this doesn&#8217;t really jibe with the amount of British support Nepal was receiving. Why wouldn&#8217;t the Nepalese just copy the Martini rifles they could bring in from England?</p>
<p>Well, it turns out they did. But when they requested a Martini sample rifle, the British decided to give them (without saying so) one of the trials rifles that was not chosen for British service instead of the new front-line design that had won the trials (can&#8217;t have the colonials with the best new weapons, y&#8217;know). Specifically, Nepal received a Peabody type action (with a flat mainspring, instead of the improved coil spring used by the Martini) with Henry rifling. We ran across an example of this trials rifle:</p>
<div id="attachment_3794" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 1030px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3794" title="Gahendra and Peabody-Henry trials rifle" src="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/trialsrifle.jpg" alt="trialsrifle Nepalese Gahendra lineage" width="1020" height="403" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Peabody-Henry trials rifle (top) and Nepalese Gahendra (bottom)</p></div>
<p>The Nepalese made a few changes to the details of the design &#8211; they combined the lever and trigger guard, and the Nepalese stock is attached with upper and lower tangs while the British rifle uses a through-bolt. The mechanism is the same, though, and definitely not a Martini. The receiver shape is pretty clearly the same, and the sling swivel at the front of the trigger was kept.</p>
<p>As a side note, this explains the reason for the sling swivel there. On the Gahendra, it can easily swing back and interfere with operating the lever if a sling is not being used. Seems like a dumb design &#8211; why not mount is a bit differently to avoid the problem? Well, probably because they just copied it off the British model they had. On that rifle, the trigger guard is a separate and fixed piece, and the swivel poses no problem.</p>
<p>We have a some more photos of this Peabody-Henry trials gun that you can take a look at (<a href="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/PeabodyHenry/peabodyhenry.zip">click here to download them all at high resolution</a>):</p>

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		<title>Book Review: The Colt Model 1905</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 13:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Today we&#8217;re looking at John Potocki&#8217;s excellent reference work, The Colt 1905 Automatic Pistol. Not much doubt what the subject is, right? The development of John Browning&#8217;s iconic 1911 pistol is generally not much discussed, and Potocki&#8217;s book is a good way to learn all the ins and outs of the pistol&#8217;s evolution and early [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today we&#8217;re looking at John Potocki&#8217;s excellent reference work, <em>The Colt 1905 Automatic Pistol</em>. Not much doubt what the subject is, right? The development of John Browning&#8217;s iconic 1911 pistol is generally not much discussed, and Potocki&#8217;s book is a good way to learn all the ins and outs of the pistol&#8217;s evolution and early trials.</p>
<p><iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ifFGgpXl7dA?fs=1&#038;feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p>You can pick up your copy on Amazon:<br />
<iframe style="width: 120px; height: 240px;" src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?lt1=_blank&amp;bc1=000000&amp;IS2=1&amp;bg1=FFFFFF&amp;fc1=000000&amp;lc1=0000FF&amp;t=forgoweapo-20&amp;o=1&amp;p=8&amp;l=as4&amp;m=amazon&amp;f=ifr&amp;ref=ss_til&amp;asins=0917218760" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" width="320" height="240"></iframe></p>
<p>Want a teaser on the sort of information you&#8217;ll find in it? Ed Buffaloe at the Unblinking Eye has a <a href="http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/1905ACP/1905acp.html">very good article on the 1905 Colt</a>, which draws many of its references from Potocki&#8217;s book.</p>
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		<title>Caseless ammunition demo action</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 13:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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				<category><![CDATA[Prototype]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The US Army (as well as other armed forces) has experimented with a bunch of interesting arms design ideas, and one that keeps coming back to the surface is the use of caseless ammunition. The basic idea is to form gunpowder into a solid block and embed a primer and projectile into it. This offers [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US Army (as well as other armed forces) has experimented with a bunch of interesting arms design ideas, and one that keeps coming back to the surface is the use of caseless ammunition. The basic idea is to form gunpowder into a solid block and embed a primer and projectile into it. This offers several theoretical advantages over standard cartridges:</p>
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<li>Lighter weight ammunition</li>
<li>No chance of ejection-related malfunctions</li>
<li>Fewer operations in the firing cycle, allowing a higher cyclic rate</li>
</ul>
<p>It also has a couple theoretical problems:</p>
<ul>
<li>More heat retained in the action (instead of being ejected in the form of hot brass)</li>
<li>Potentially fragile ammunition</li>
<li>Greater likelihood of cookoffs</li>
<li>New mechanism needed to seal the breech (with standard ammo, the brass case expands on firing to provide a gas seal between the powder and bolt)</li>
</ul>
<p>Despite numerous experiments, most notably the Heckler &amp; Koch G11, the advantages have never been able to outweigh the disadvantages. But that doesn&#8217;t stop the idea from being pretty intriguing. We had the opportunity to take a look at a demonstration mockup of a caseless ammo rifle made by the Hughes company. Hughes is best known as an aircraft manufacturer, but also did a lot of weapons work, including designs like the <a href="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/cannon/hughes-heligun">Heligun</a> (lots of aircraft-to-guns spillover used to happen &#8211; like Fairchild and the AR15). Anyway, this caseless demonstrator is pretty neat, so we put together a video for you:</p>
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		<title>Our Triumphant Return!</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 13:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re back! We arrived in the US late last night from an absolutely outstanding three weeks in western Europe (France, Belgium, and the UK). We spent almost the entire trip visiting great collections and very knowledgeable folks. We have a ton of great material for you &#8211; a total of 163 new manuals, 13.8 gigs [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re back! We arrived in the US late last night from an absolutely outstanding three weeks in western Europe (France, Belgium, and the UK). We spent almost the entire trip visiting great collections and very knowledgeable folks. We have a ton of great material for you &#8211; a total of 163 new manuals, 13.8 gigs of video footage, and 9250 photos. Plenty of good stuff to keep the blog going for a long time.</p>
<div id="attachment_3783" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 490px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3783" title="VE Day" src="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/VE-day-newspaper-480x326.jpg" alt="VE day newspaper 480x326 Our Triumphant Return!" width="480" height="326" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Note: Some artistic license may have been taken in associating this with our return.</p></div>
<p>We&#8217;d like to give a big thank-you to all the folks who generously offered their hospitality showing us collections and putting us up for the night. We are in your debt, Jean, Jeanelle, Kristof, Joel, Serge, Mark, Dave, Tony, John, Paul, Ian, Richard (three different Richards, actually), Peter, Stephanie, Mark, Jonathan, Stuart (two different Stuarts), Rosie, Chris, Frank and Dennis.</p>
<p>Among many others, we had the opportunity to disassemble and study the Cei Rigotti, Mauser Volkspistol, FG-42, VG1-5, Lorenzoni repeating flintlock, and EM-2. We&#8217;ll be publishing this material and more over the coming weeks and months (it&#8217;ll take a while for us to digest all this information and write it up). We also had the opportunity to visit several small firearms manufacturers, plus tour the production shops at FN Herstal. And to top it off, we spent a day at the big gun and militaria show at Ciney (Belgium) and found some cool trinkets to bring home.</p>
<p>We hope to do another trip like this next year, although we don&#8217;t have a specific destination chosen yet. There are so many place with great potential, but the Czech Republic, Italy, and Switzerland are on the short list. If you can help us set up some contacts in any of those countries, we would be very appreciative. Drop us a line at admin@forgottenweapons.com!</p>
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		<title>ABC&#8217;s of Machine Guns</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 13:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another neat manual &#8211; A.B.C du Mitrailleu &#8211; the ABCs of Machine Guns. This was published in 1917 (the fifth edition, anyway) in French, and does a nice job showing all the most useful information on each of the major mounted machine guns being used at the time. It includes the MG08 Maxim, 1909 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another neat manual &#8211; <em>A.B.C du Mitrailleu</em> &#8211; the ABCs of Machine Guns. This was published in 1917 (the fifth edition, anyway) in French, and does a nice job showing all the most useful information on each of the major mounted machine guns being used at the time. It includes the MG08 Maxim, 1909 Vickers, 1914 Hotchkiss, 1907 St Etienne, and 1895 Colt.</p>
<div id="attachment_3672" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 802px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3672" title="M1914 Hotchkiss machine gun" src="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/hotchkiss.jpg" alt="hotchkiss ABCs of Machine Guns" width="792" height="442" /><p class="wp-caption-text">M1914 Hotchkiss machine gun</p></div>
<p>In addition to basic stats and identifying information, this booklet includes instructions on loading the guns and spare ammo on pack horses or carts, machine gun tactics, cutaway and operational drawings, and mechanical descriptions of the guns.The only downside (for us Americans) is that it&#8217;s written in French. Still, definitely worth a look for the neat illustrations.</p>
<div id="attachment_3673" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 831px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3673" title="1909 Vickers machine gun cutaway view" src="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/vickerscutaway.jpg" alt="vickerscutaway ABCs of Machine Guns" width="821" height="339" /><p class="wp-caption-text">1909 Vickers machine gun cutaway view</p></div>
<p>You can download the booklet here:</p>
<div id="attachment_3675" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 426px"><a href="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/Books/ABC du Mitrailleur.pdf"><img class="size-full wp-image-3675" title="ABC du Mitrailleur (French, 1917)" src="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/abcmitrailleurcover.jpg" alt="abcmitrailleurcover ABCs of Machine Guns" width="416" height="253" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">ABC du Mitrailleur (French, 1917)</p></div>
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		<title>Vintage Saturday: Shivering with an AVS-36</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 13:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class="wp-caption-text">Shivering in the trenches with a Simonov AVS-36</p> <p>Invading Russian never goes well, for any of the parties involved. These two certainly don&#8217;t look they&#8217;re having such a good time.</p> ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_3643" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 510px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3643" title="Shivering in the trenches with an AVS-36" src="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/t-005.jpg" alt="t 005 Vintage Saturday: Shivering with an AVS 36" width="500" height="357" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Shivering in the trenches with a Simonov AVS-36</p></div>
<p>Invading Russian never goes well, for any of the parties involved. These two certainly don&#8217;t look they&#8217;re having such a good time.</p>
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		<title>1899 Remington-Lee Magazine Rifle</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 13:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>James Paris Lee is one of the less recognized prolific arms designers in American history, between the Lee straight pull rifle adopted by the US Navy and the British Lee-Metford and Lee-Enfield rifles. One of his less successful designs (commercially speaking) was the modernization and adaptation of the M1885 Lee Navy rifle (in .45-70) into [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Paris Lee is one of the less recognized prolific arms designers in American history, between the <a href="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/m1895-lee-rifle-manual">Lee straight pull rifle adopted by the US Navy</a> and the British Lee-Metford and Lee-Enfield rifles. One of his less successful designs (commercially speaking) was the modernization and adaptation of the M1885 Lee Navy rifle (in .45-70) into a .30-40 Government (aka .30-40 Krag) caliber. The rifle was intended for military service, but not adopted &#8211; ultimately less than 1500 were build for the commercial market.</p>
<div id="attachment_3734" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 338px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3734" title=".30-40 Remington-Lee rifle in military configuration" src="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/remlee.jpg" alt="remlee 1899 Remington Lee Magazine Rifle" width="328" height="589" /><p class="wp-caption-text">.30-40 Remington-Lee rifle in military configuration</p></div>
<p>Lee realized that successful modern rifle designs of his day would need to be well suited for the high velocity smokeless powder cartridges that were on the horizon, and he changed the Remington-Lee design to this end. Where the M1885 rifle was rear locking, the updated 1899 version used the standard Lee rear and safety lugs but also had two locking lugs on the bolt head.</p>
<div id="attachment_3735" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 896px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3735" title="Remington-Lee 1899 cutaway view" src="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/remleecutaway.jpg" alt="remleecutaway 1899 Remington Lee Magazine Rifle" width="886" height="369" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Remington-Lee 1899 cutaway view (note cutout for locking lugs at the base of the chamber)</p></div>
<p>The 1899 Remington-Lee used a 5-round single stack magazine, and had no manual safety. Instead, the cocking piece was designed to be easily gripped and had a half-cock notch. Safe carry was intended to be achieved by placing the rifle in half-cock. In addition to being expensive to manufacture (thanks to the multiple sets of locking lugs, which would requires some precision machining), the main design flaw of the rifle was a lack of a recoil lug on the receiver. The force of recoil was put onlt the thin wood around the magazine and wrist, and stocks were susceptible to cracking with extended use.</p>
<p>We have a copy of an original Remington-Lee manual, which is primarily focused on the military model of the rifle but also includes a couple pages on the sporting version that was actually produced. You can download a copy from the <a href="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/rifles/remington-lee-1899">Remington-Lee 1899 page</a> in the Vault, or right here:</p>
<div id="attachment_3737" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 348px"><a href="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/RemingtonLee/Remington Lee Magazine Rifle manual (English).PDF"><img class="size-full wp-image-3737" title="1899 Remington-Lee Magazine Rifle manual (English)" src="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/remlesscover.jpg" alt="remlesscover 1899 Remington Lee Magazine Rifle" width="338" height="253" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">1899 Remington-Lee Magazine Rifle manual (English)</p></div>
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		<title>Book Review: Monster Hunter International</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 13:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Monster Hunter International is the story of an accountant and 3-gun competitor changing careers and becoming a mercenary hunter of supernatural evil &#8211; and who hasn&#8217;t had that daydream during a long day in the office? Larry Correia does a great job balancing legit storytelling and detailed realism with tongue-in-cheek humor, creating a book that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Monster Hunter International</em> is the story of an accountant and 3-gun competitor changing careers and becoming a mercenary hunter of supernatural evil &#8211; and who hasn&#8217;t had that daydream during a long day in the office? Larry Correia does a great job balancing legit storytelling and detailed realism with tongue-in-cheek humor, creating a book that stylishly cavorts from gunfight to gunfight without reading like typical zombie fiction. It doesn&#8217;t hurt that Correia includes some scenes we can all relate to:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>It was like a normal group of people having breakfast, but everyone was armed and there was a flamethrower sitting in the corner.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I dunno about you, but I&#8217;ve been in rooms like that. Never had to take on a gargoyle with a tire iron, though.</p>
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<p>Pick up MHI, or all three books in the series and enjoy!</p>
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		<title>Russian AVS-36 Rifle</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 13:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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				<category><![CDATA[Semiauto rifles]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Russia (or the USSR, for these purposes) had an early self-loading rifle in the 1916 Federov, but it was not a satisfactory combat weapons, for several reasons. The Soviet military held a number of trials for a new automatic rifle in the late 1920s and 1930s, and the winner was the Automaticheskaya Vintovka Simonova obraztsa [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russia (or the USSR, for these purposes) had an early self-loading rifle in the <a href="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/early-semiauto-rifles/fedorov">1916 Federov</a>, but it was not a satisfactory combat weapons, for several reasons. The Soviet military held a number of trials for a new automatic rifle in the late 1920s and 1930s, and the winner was the <em>Automaticheskaya Vintovka Simonova obraztsa 1936 goda</em>, or Simonov Automatic Rifle, model of 1936. The weapon was adopted as the AVS-36, and put into production. However, it was quickly realized that the design was not a particularly good one. It was complex and expensive to manufacture and prone to malfunctioning in the field. Another trial was held in 1938 between an updated version of the AVS, a rifle designed by Tokarev, and one by a designer named Rukavishnikov. In this trial (and probably with the help of some political intrigue), the Tokarev design won out, and was adopted as the SVT-38.</p>
<div id="attachment_3561" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 910px"><a href="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/avs36-02.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-3561" title="Simonov AVS-36 automatic rifle" src="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/avs36-02.jpg" alt="avs36 02 Russian AVS 36 Rifle" width="900" height="201" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Simonov AVS-36 automatic rifle</p></div>
<p>The AVS-36 was made in relatively small numbers (35,000-65,000, depending on which source you want to believe) and saw use primarily in the Winter War between Finland and the USSR. At the end of that conflict, most of the rifles were collected up and warehoused, to be destroyed by 1943/44. A decent number were captured by Finnish forces and survived that way. The Finnish military was not particularly impressed with the design, but it was popular with some Finnish soldiers.</p>
<p>Functionally, the AVS-36 is a short-stroke gas operated action, with a locking block that slides vertically up and down in the receiver to lock and unlock. The gas system is very similar to the SVT-38/40, but the locking is quite different.</p>
<p>The AVS-36 is most easily recognized by its large and distinctive muzzle brake, which was actually not all that effective. It used a 15-round magazine, and could fire in either semi or full automatic mode. In full auto, it ran at about 800 rounds/minute and was basically uncontrollable (it is not coincidental that it replacement, the SVT-38, was made in semiauto only). A small number of sniper variants of the AVS-36 were made, using a scope mounted off to the left of the bore (to not interfere with the design&#8217;s clip loading and upward ejection).</p>
<div id="attachment_3562" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 970px"><a href="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/sniperavs36.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-3562" title="AVS-36 sniper variant" src="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/sniperavs36.jpg" alt="sniperavs36 Russian AVS 36 Rifle" width="960" height="570" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">AVS-36 sniper variant</p></div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<div id="attachment_3563" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 557px"><a href="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/sniperavs36-2.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-3563" title="AVS-36 sniper variant" src="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/sniperavs36-2.jpg" alt="sniperavs36 2 Russian AVS 36 Rifle" width="547" height="572" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">AVS-36 sniper variant</p></div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We have a gallery of more photos on the <a href="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/early-semiauto-rifles/simonov-avs-36">Simonov AVS-36 page</a> in the Vault.</p>
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		<title>Browning 1919 Modifications That Never Were</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 13:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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				<category><![CDATA[LMG]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[1919]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Browing]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[drum]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Magazine]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>It is generally known that John M. Browning never retired, instead working on firearms design right up until the day of his death in 1926. His final gun would eventually be completed by Dieudonné Saive and become known as the FN High Power. Well, Browning wasn&#8217;t a single-task sort of guy. While he was working [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is generally known that John M. Browning never retired, instead working on firearms design right up until the day of his death in 1926. His final gun would eventually be completed by Dieudonné Saive and become known as the FN High Power. Well, Browning wasn&#8217;t a single-task sort of guy. While he was working on the High Power pistol, he was also waiting for a couple patents to be granted for new feeding devices for his M1919 machine gun.</p>
<p>By the mid 1920s, Browning saw ahead to the coming use of his M1919 machine guns in aircraft, particularly bombers and transports. Mounting a machine gun in a fixed position on a fighter is a relatively simple procedure, but a flexible mount in a bomber presents some challenges. For a belt-fed gun, it is necessary to either have the whole belt move with the gun, or provide a flexible guide to feed the belt when the gun is in various positions. Browning had a couple ideas to provide large-capacity magazines mounted on the 1919 to avoid this problem. In July of 1925 he applied for a patent for a top-mounted drum-type magazine (like the Lewis or DP), and a few months later in January of 1926 he filed an application for a patent on a saddle-type magazine (like the MG15 and MG34).</p>
<div id="attachment_3716" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 693px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3716" title="Patent drawing for a Browning 1919 drum magazine" src="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1919drummag.jpg" alt="1919drummag Browning 1919 Modifications That Never Were" width="683" height="612" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Patent drawing for a Browning 1919 drum magazine</p></div>
<p>Both patents were granted to Browning, but not until after his death (the drum in 1927 and the saddle in 1931). Neither device was ever manufactured, to the best of our knowledge, probably because Browning could not personally push the concept.</p>
<div id="attachment_3717" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 522px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3717" title="Patent drawings for a Browning 1919 saddle magazine" src="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1919saddlemag.jpg" alt="1919saddlemag Browning 1919 Modifications That Never Were" width="512" height="643" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Patent drawings for a Browning 1919 saddle magazine</p></div>
<p>Would these magazines have made a significant difference in machine gun use in World War II? Probably not a huge one, but we can see the concept being useful in aircraft and perhaps on the 1919A6 light machine gun. They would have been neat, that&#8217;s for sure. You can download both of the complete patents here:</p>
<p>Drum magazine: <a href="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/Browning1919/US Patent 1629652.pdf">US Patent 1,629,652</a> (J.M. Browning, &#8220;Cartridge Feeding Mechanism for Automatic Firearms&#8221;, May 24, 1927)</p>
<p>Saddle magazine: <a href="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/Browning1919/US Patent 1800595.pdf">US Patent 1,800,595</a> (J. M. Browning, &#8220;Magazine Feed Mechanism for Machine Guns&#8221;, April 14, 1931)</p>
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